***Spoilers for 2.06***
Tonight on Syfy, Channel Zero: No-End House
comes to its conclusion when Jules (Aisha Dee) works to find a way to get back to Margot (Amy Forsyth) and bring her out before it's too late.
Creator and executive producer Nick Antosca talked to SciFi Vision earlier in the season in an exclusive interview about what the house really is and interpreting some of the visuals.
I wanted to ask you about some of the visuals of the show and the meanings of them, because a lot of it was left very vague.
Rather than seeing a dead relative alive like Margot in room six, Jules sees this strange glowing orb. Can you just talk about what it means?
I want to leave it up to the viewers' interpretation. The house as a general rule looks deep into you and sees your vulnerabilities and what it can exploit. It manifests differently for everyone. I didn't want it just to be a person from their past. The nature of everybody’s projections is different. Exactly how that functions is unique to each individual. I was going to ask you about JT (Seamus Patterson) and why he saw a double of himself, but I guess if they all are different, that pretty much answers it.
But would it be safe to say that since his head isn't ripped apart in room one like the others that maybe he is shallow so the house didn't dig very deep?
I'll leave that up for the viewer to interpret. I'm going to leave it entirely to the viewers to discuss, argue, and interpret. I didn't want every character's projection to be a literal representation. Fair enough.
So, going off of the fact that the house made a copy of JT - when they enter the sixth room, does everyone have a copy, or does it just depend what the house does to them? Because I'm curious how they know who is actually a real person and who is part of the sixth room. For instance, how does Dylan (Sebastian Pigott) know for sure that the first Lacey (Jess Salgueiro) he sees isn't real?
The house creates projections, and they feed on memories. So, that is part of what is so dangerous about being in the sixth room, that you can't always tell who is a real person and who is something created by the house. And if you stay in the sixth room you get hollowed out and lose all those memories.
I was curious about the meaning behind the two bike riders that Margot sees over and over. Is that just a glitch in the system, or am I reading too much into it?
The house recreates the world from your memories, but it doesn't recreate it exactly. There are sloppy areas that don't connect properly. Things get repeated. So we wanted little details to be wrong in the sixth room. What about the black smoke? Was that the same sort of thing?
Distance is an illusion; the room doesn't go on forever. Sometimes they can see the illusion. Can you talk about the use of water imagery in the show and how it's used symbolically?
The imagery is a very deliberate choice in the story. With Margot, it's a little bit about not wanting to grow up, and in the early shot it was meant to be a little womb-like. It continues through the show and connects to her desire to return to childhood. I'd like to talk about Margot's father (John Carroll Lynch), or rather, I guess, the projection of her father. Obviously he's part of the house, but can you talk about how he/it has changed since they've been together? Because at the beginning he ate memories of her mother, and as the story goes on he's trying to stop hurting her. He takes much less important memories, like of the apple.
The character of her father in a way is a memory vampire. He's not malicious. He can't help what he is, and so part of his journey is questioning if it's worth it to exist when his existence is slowly killing his daughter. So, both of them have to make choices about how much it's worth it to be together.
He has real emotions and feelings; they're not artificial simulations. He feels compassion, love, and fear; he's just not completely human.
...[but also] as they go further on she has less substantial memories. Just thinking about it, I kind of wonder would it be possible for them to create new memories for him to eat.
I think that's sort of what they are doing at the end. Once she's entirely depleted herself of memories, they only have a few inches of runway. So, her father as a projection from the house, can you talk about how he actually comes out into the real world? Unless maybe we are just assuming as the audience that they actually are out of the house. [laughs]
He manages to follow them out, but causes so much damage. He's not supposed to be there, so she for the sake of her friends [Magot goes back with him].
I'd like to talk a minute about Seth (Jeff Ward). He is someone who stayed in the house, by choice.
I think it's interesting to think about what kind of person would actually want to live there once they're there. Are there some people who would think like, "This is a place where I could be happy and feel safe and escape from demons?" And I thought that was interesting. But the house lets him come and go. Is it just because he is bringing more people in? It just uses people however it can?
Seth has found a way to game the system. He is a hanger on; he's a parasite within the parasite. He's like a ramora hanging onto the belly of a shark. Lastly, and I know you might say again it's up to the viewer, but I wanted to kind of talk about and try to wrap my head around what the house and room six actually is. Does it take them into almost an alternate reality? Or is it sort of just all from in their head?
The house creates a space where it can recreate your reality and use it against you. So, however you want to describe the final room of the house, you could call it a virtual reality, an alternate reality, a simulation - I hate to define it, but yeah, it's creating a space where it can use everything it's found in your mind as you went through the house and use that stuff to keep you there and feed on you. And it took more from Margo I assume because maybe her emotions were stronger than some of the others.
Margot is particularly vulnerable to the house.