[In the first part of the interview] you talked about how Cole and Cassie kind of break apart in 2.08, but then later, they obviously get back on better terms. She decides to leave Ramse (Kirk Acevedo) and go off with Cole to try to stop the last paradox instead of heading to Titan.

So they're at least working together again, but then fast forward to the conversation in the house in 2.12. She's says to Cole, "You left me, because you're in love with me. I've always known," and he's like, "You kept pushing me away," and then they end up getting back together in a big way. Can you talk about her change in perspective and sort of why she's changed her mind and is willing to now let herself get close when she wasn't before? Is it she feels they're safe now?

AMANDA SCHULL: The answer to that is time. It's just that they suddenly think they have time. He says, "Look around. There's no plague here. There's no Red Forrest." They believe that the threat is not imminent. They believe that they're safe at that point, and she's finally able to exhale.

She spent months when she was a nurse, when she woke up in the hospital, and then she had to start her whole life over again, and she did it alone. The whole time she was just thinking about him. Was he thinking about her? She didn't know; she was trying to track him down.

And when she finally finds him, he tells her to go away. You know, that's just so harsh, and the reason he is doing it is, because she keeps pushing him away, and when he finally tells her that we're safe, we finally have time, that I think is when she's able to relax. And it's also just however many months she was apart from him, I think she's just incapable of denying it anymore.

What happens next, which is unexpected and also slightly confusing, is that when Cole changes the future, Cassie remembers what actually happened between them in 2.12 and in the season finale. In other instances, characters would know there was something changed, like with Jones (Barbara Sukowa). She watched the world change around her, but she didn't remember both timelines. But Cassie remembers it all. Is the reason for that just that their love transcends time? Because I know there's a quote, Madeline Stowe says something like, 'Death can be undone, but love cannot.'

There's also another quote about The Witness specifically, that he's 'born of two travelers out of time,' that he is this sort of supernatural being and the two travelers created him in a time that basically doesn't even exist. And so if he can be created because of that, I think their love can transcend as well.

Now though it's a little creepy to think back that if their son is The Witness, he came to her before as her boyfriend (Noah Bean) and then as Cole. [laughs]

Also by the way, there are all of these other people, and a little bit more so at the end, but all of these other people willing to kill Cassie, but protecting Cole. Like what kind of a jerk face is The Witness that just is caring more about his dad's existence? That ticked me off personally. [laughs]

When Cole comes back to Cassie, and she knows something is wrong, she tries to get it out of him, but he basically says 'I really want this baby; this is what I want more than anything,' do you think that he should have told her the truth about going back? I know it was to stop her pain, but in your opinion, do you think that he should have?

Do you want My Amanda opinion or my Cassie opinion?

I guess Amanda, because Cassie doesn't know. [laughs]

I wonder if Amanda and Cassie have the same opinion?

Well if he's made up his mind that he's going to sort of forsake his existence with Cassie to save Ramse and the others at Titan, then telling her isn't fair. So, no. But if he's still grappling with it, and if he is deciding whether or not to do it, then I think that the two of them could hash it out, [laughs] discuss it, and, you know, maybe even go forward together from that point.

But I think my Cassie response would probably be that she would want to know. She likes to know everything. She wants no secrets ever. So she would want to be kept in the know, no matter what the outcome.

I was yelling at Cole to tell her. [laughs]

Well there were a couple of scenes that were actually taken out of episodes 12 and 13 that just showed more of the two of them together and showed him a little bit more - there was one scene in particular that was him grappling more with this decision mentally, and her just being so happy being together with him, that he just couldn't break her heart. And I think probably because of time constraints, they just weren't able to keep those in.

But then I also think, 'Why didn't they both take the tea?' [laughs] They could have both traveled back I would think.

I know, but, well, if she's pregnant, he probably doesn't want her to take the tea, just in case. I don't know.

True.

Can you talk about filming the end scene in the future with all the masked people in the amphitheater? It looked phenomenal, but it was creepy.

Yeah, it was creepy. I think the actual name of that theater is like The Red Theater, or something equally disturbing, in real life. It was really interesting filming that, because we filmed that particular scene before we filmed any of the stuff in the house with Cole and Cassie. So we filmed them very much out of sequence. So I had created this whole life between the two of them in my own imagination, and then I had to take that away from Cassie before entering the theater.

And those guys were in those creepy [robes]. There's Tom Noonan, who's just a presence, there, and it was very kind of isolating, I guess. I was the only woman in the theater. I don't know if there even was a woman on the crew that day, but I was the only woman there, and obviously I couldn't tell if any of the extras were looking directly at me, if any of the masked men were looking directly at me. It felt very isolating, probably very much what she felt.

And the idea that she's there in this time unknown, with these creeps unknown and this person on the verge of killing her for years at this point, is horrifying, but if we know anything about Cassie, we know that after she gets past her horror. She's going to start spinning some wheels and start trying to figure out what to do. Within another couple of hours Cassie is going to try to figure out how to get herself out of that situation. She doesn't sit around and wallow.

Then you start thinking about how that's going to change the timeline. Obviously the witness has to grow up to have been affecting things, but there are just so many threads. I just watched it this afternoon, and I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything I watched.

And also, I mean, this is her child. I mean, think about that too. There's also an element of, 'how do you know that he's going to grow up to be this horrible person, this architect of the Red Forrest?' I mean, if I were to actually raise him with love, is there a possibility that he could be good? Could I change that? Could I change my timeline? What does fate have to say about this? How does causality play into this? And then this is also at this point her only living reminder of Cole.

It makes me wonder, does he grow up to be The Witness because of everything that's happened; is it because they take him after he's born? Or could what Cassie decides to do cause it? You have to wonder all those things.

Can you talk about the special effects that you've worked with, because I know you've been into the Red Forrest and all that, so you've had your fair share of visual effects.

The first season I didn't work a lot with any special effects, and then the second season we started working a lot more with a director named Chris Burn, who does a lot of the special effects and sort of second unit stuff.

So he did a couple of scenes that were in episodes, but then he's also done a lot of the work that requires more special effects, more visuals. And working with him has been incredible, because he sort of lays everything out. He creates these beautiful images and concept art to present to us, so that you have an idea what your character is looking at, which us enormously helpful, because the audience gets to go on this journey visually with the final product, but we're also supposed to be able to see every single detail of it too, and you're supposed to be able to read that on our faces. That can be really challenging as an actor, and it's really disappointing when you see your final performance, and you realize that either what you imagined or what they told you is completely different from the final visuals and CG that they laid in there. It's infuriating, because it all falls back on you as a performer. And I've been lucky enough with 12 Monkeys that they're really giving with showing and describing what's in the scene.

I know that also with Terry [Matalas]'s attention to detail; if it doesn't match up, we do it again.

And that's something with the scene between Jennifer (Emily Hampshire) and Jones, when Jennifer is describing primaries; I think that scene was shot three or four different times with three or four different directors. You'd have to ask them specifically about that, but I know that it was a work in progress, because they wanted to make sure [it worked]. That's a major scene; that's a major point of the mythology.

And when we read the script, that particular scene was so crazy epic. I remember reading it on my way back from Comic-Con in San Diego last year on my iPad, and Todd Stashwick was sitting across the isle from me on the airplane, and he didn't have his iPad or any way to read it, because we had just been sent it via email. And I was like, "Oh my God! Todd! Oh my God!" And he was like, "Hurry up and finish!" And then I had to pass it over to him.

It was just so beautifully written, and they wanted to make sure they did the writing justice, and I really think they did.

Also, I wanted to say, with the special effects, I found it really interesting how the whole thing with the house effects, like what Cassie saw in her vision versus what Olivia (Alisen Down) said, how that matches up, but also how what Cassie actually saw wasn't exactly what she and the audience thought it would be.

Another thing I wanted to ask, and I think you were only in one of the flashbacks, but I really liked how when Cole went back through his timeline in 2.13. When he went back through, did you guys go back and refilm any bits of those scenes, or are they actually the original scenes, and it just seems like he's aware of being there for a second time? Do you know?

It was a mix and match. He went back and he shot his side of things, because obviously he needed to have a different response, and he's talking to himself through all of that. And then they layered that into the originals.

I know that Emily came into work at something crazy at like four o'clock in the morning to be there for her scene with him, but it was all off camera. None of her performance was on camera; it was just for him to have dialog.

My character doesn't have dialog with him; it's just him.

And reading that, also I'm thinking, from a script standpoint, how are they going to do this again? Another seamless editing job, and performance also by Aaron Stanford. I mean, wow, I was really impressed when I got to see that.

I know you can't tell me what they are, but do you know what Terry's plans for season three are yet, or is he not sharing much of it, other than that you will be in the future next season?

I know a few things, and Terry and I have discussed getting together and discussing what his plans are. I mean, that man has an imagination unlike anything I've ever encountered in my life, and I look forward to sitting there being enthralled by each and every one of his ideas and starting to put my own character plans and notes on it, because I can only imagine what he has in store. He keeps saying he knows how the whole show ends. He knows the ending. He knows the end of the story for these characters. And that, he's never told me.